Oliver Twist

What more is there? We go through life seeking more. Always wanting more or needing more. Some would even justify this 'more' by saying they want less, but that less is to allow for more of something else.

I am tired of this more. What more can there be?

There is an inherent notion amongst all of us that there is more to life than the life we live. We are in a constant state of seeking more of life. We do the things we do to try and get more out of this life.

But, what else is there?

Mostly importantly, why do we need more? I am tired. This more never ends. There is always more of something to have and less of something else. Even if I was to become a Buddhist scholar and retreat deep into India, all I'll be doing is seeking more, more peace of mind and less chaos.

I don't want more. Actually, I don't want anything at all.

Although, that is how I feel, it does however put me in a predicament: then what? I seek nothing, If I want nothing, what else is there to live for? Do I want to be alive? Do I want to die?

I don't know. I really don't know what more do I want or need.  I feel as if I have done all I can do.  I am only functioning purely because I am alive. I work because I agreed to work. I have ideas, only because they keep me doing something whilst I am in life's waiting room.

This is odd — I've never felt this way before, and this feeling only came about last night.

Hmmm.

 
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#01

It's amidst thoughts like those that one feels that life really is a purposeless state.

We run to things like religion as refuge from our feeling of life's purposelessness (i.e., religion gives us the sense of purpose, and, as a cherry-on-top, a sense of belonging).

Logically, or, better still, as far as I've thought, life is purposeless*.

Which, I know, paints people like me as pessimists. But at the core of the assertion by those who believe life to have a purpose — lies a belief.

A religious doctrine.

*(Whatever your reason for living is: ask yourself: " ... and then what?" — ask that question to every single answer that you come up with).

#02

True. There is no purpose. No grand purpose.

In a biological sense, perpetuating the existence of our species could possibly be the only purpose. But, that too is debatable considering there is 7 billion of us.

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  • 15h15, Wed 22nd
    Feb 2012
#03

Hmm, then, with that biological sense in mind, the question would be, ... perpetuate our existing species for what? (Which sort of brings in my previous comment's " ... and then what?" question).

*(Ja, o nyaka gore remisha thlogo.)

#04

Well, you see, I agree that there is no purpose to life, but I think, its more of like this:

there is no purpose to life outside of itself

That to say, if we try to give life meaning, outside of what life actually is, then your question comes into play, "for what?". But, if we accept to life, is only about being alive, well to stay so, well, that's up to the individual and that proverbial thing called, fate.

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  • 20h32, Wed 22nd
    Feb 2012
#05

This is a very interesting twist to things, funny it's a question I have been asking myself for the past 2 months.... "What's next?". Personally I believe purpose of ones life is defined by an individual. What you choose to embark in is the purpose of your existence at that particular moment in time, so purpose is not cast in stone so to speak, which also leads back to the matter of wanting more. Does redefining your purpose mean you want more or you want something else? Is there a difference between more and something else? It's a very grey area...

#06

Kabelo:

You, like most people do when the purpose of life is discussed, only covered the purpose of an individual's life within life.

What kept — and still do — great minds awake at night is their attempt to find out what the purpose of life is. That is, the purpose of life itself, not the purpose of the living.

I think it's either you (er, by "you", I mean any human being) don't know what the purpose is, or, your answer, as to what the purpose of life is, is based on whatever religion you adhere to.

#07

Well I do not speak for people in general, I am speaking from my own individual point of view and based on what I think the purpose of life is... Adhering to any form of religion does not necessarily equate to a defined purpose, to me it just lays out the path you follow in fulfilling that purpose...

To believe in God and being a committed christian does not mean your purpose is to spread the gospel, if you chose to do that, that will be an individual choice and goes back to you defining your purpose.

#08

Kabelo:

I am fully aware that you speak for you.

By mentioning religion, I was merely attempting to bring to the discussion, that what we believe is the purpose of life, is usually based on what whatever particular religion we follow feeds us.

Again, by looking at your last statement, I think that you are talking about the purpose of a person, or, people, ... not the purpose of life itself.

#09

True, yet I say again, it's an individual choice to say what the purpose of "your life" is, it is not cast in stone... If you try to encapsulate the purpose of life in general under a single umbrella there are many factors and variables to take into consideration... Let me use common sense as an example, what is common to you might not be common to me, so defining a general purpose to life is close to impossible, the closest in my opinion to the answer of "what is the purpose of life?" would be to be lived.

What I am trying to do is agree and yet disagree with Lebogang's statement - "there is no purpose to life outside of itself" ... Beyond life itself, yes life has no purpose, and on the flip side of the coin, why are you "engaging" in life if it has no purpose? Are you aimlessly roaming the earth just because your lungs and heart are still pumping? See where that grey area comes in?

Take the life a ordinary man (can't find an alternative to "ordinary "), for some reason there seems to be an unwritten law that states that 1 must "Get born, go to school, get a job, get married, start a family and then die". Is that the purpose of life? And then you get guys like You, Lebogang and myself (not limited to) who somewhere between getting a job and dying chose a different path, we chose to jump out of "social specifications" and take a couple of risks there and there, if what I mentioned above i.e. Get born, go to school etc is the purpose of life, are our lives purposeless? Or did we decide define a different purpose of our lives.

#10

Hmm,,,

I agree partly with your closing, "we decide to define [it]."

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  • 11h01, Fri 16th
    Mar 2012
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